Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor on ‘end-times fascism’ and Gaza

In a new Guardian series, Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor argue that the world is not just lurching from crisis to crisis but has entered a new dangerous moment in history. Interviewed by Aditya Chakrabortty for Radical Thinking, the pair discuss Trump 2.0, tech billionaires, Gaza, and the climate emergency. Klein and Taylor describe Gaza as ‘a moral tear in the universe’. Yet they haven’t given up hope of a fightback.

Their book, End Times Fascism, began as a special essay in the Guardian. It regularly cites Karen Hao’s Empire of AI and engages with thinkers like Yanis Varoufakis, whose book Technofeudalism was featured in the last episode of Radical Thinking. The extended interview with Klein and Taylor is available to watch.

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